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Posted By: JDTremblay

Sorry for the delay - 06/12/06 04:37 PM

First of all I would like to say We enjoyed meeting the board members we met on SP. We enjoyed our time on the island very much. Ali(from canucks) was the best fishing partner Mario was cool to hang out with he was very quiet on the fishing trip it was hard to believe he was in a band ( Punta Boys )

The Palms was the best it was like staying in someones home. The night watch man ( cant remember his name ) was cool as hell. On one drunk one berral and water night he saw me cleaning a coconut on the dock and came out and helped this drunk ole cajun so i could come home with all my fingers and then climed a tree and got us two more to try drinking from. It was great that night but in the morning the coconut gods had there revenge.

I really didnt care for ether belikin or belikin preimum but light hopuse was ok. One barrel and water with a twist of lime is good stuff.

Chalky ( I know that is most likely not how you spell his name ) from Ocean Adventures was the coolest guide I have went out with even though the boat broke down while we were out and I had to fix it. It was still cool and we went back out with him the next day. He was a very profesional guide and my wife felt very safe out on the reef with him there.

BC's on sunday was cool we had a great time and plan to return again. The people were as nice as everyone said and more there is some we met that we will never forget

----------- now the things we didnt like ------

the cost of living was very high and that led us to decide against looking at property in SP

the part that kinda hurt my feelings a little was when we went through the cut to the back side of the island and saw how the locals live back there it was the poorest sight i have ever seen ( no disrespect intended )

the venders were one thing that i didnt like it made us feel like we had to be assholes to them to get them to leave us alone. ( we bought some necklaces from the young cpl just down the beach from the palms and had a custom necklace made by the guy on the corner right infront of the food stalls in town )

the offers for drugs were a little crazy I thought it was strange that the only time I saw a police man was at the chicken drop ( which was cool too )

All in all we had a great time and will be back to visit but not to live what i have said here is only our view once again EVERYBODY we came in contact with were wounderful people and we felt welcome fron the time we hit the island untill the time we left

J D and Dianne Tremblay
smile
Posted By: Hon

Re: Sorry for the delay - 06/12/06 05:04 PM

Thanks for the trip report JD. We have been wondering how things went.

I'm glad to hear that you liked it enough to want to return smile
Posted By: Sun&sand

Re: Sorry for the delay - 06/12/06 05:25 PM

JD, I'm glad you managed to surface, after such a long time. We have missed your smile!!
I hope you will let me shed a little bit of light on your opinion of the "poor" area. I thought the same as you did after my first visit. Since then, I have learned. By our US standards, these residents are poor. But, by island native standards, these people are rich beyond means. They have food to eat, a roof over their heads, and their children are healthy. They are not encumbered by trying to keep up with the "Jones" or get the bigger/better/faster/fancier whatever. They go home at night after a hard days work and feel like they have done a good job, spend time with their families, and rest before starting it all over again the next day. Here in the states, we go home, hit the computer/wallstreet journal/industry or trade magazines, drink too much, get ulcers and ignore the family in the quest of getting more and more stuff to make our lives easier. The Belizians have it figured out. Not having the "stuff" keeps them free. I am learning a lot from them, and hope to incorporate this into my life here in the states. Have gotten rid of a bunch of stuff, with more to go, but already feel lighter. I agree with the cost of things on the island, but will pay a little bit more and buy a lot less. Please return and keep this in mind. Remember they have never had the wealth that we have, so they don't miss it. I also agree with the vendors hitting you up while you are trying to have a nice time. Something needs to be done before it turns into another Cancun, where people get angry with the vendors for bugging them so much. Perhaps a designated area where they can set out their stuff for people to look at, and then purchase? I don't know the answer, but these things won't stop me from going back. I do love San Pedro.
Posted By: beachboy

Re: Sorry for the delay - 06/12/06 08:54 PM

Please do not let those locals houses make you think there is poverty here. There is very little in the country and certainly not in SP.

It is just a matter of priorities. Locals generally actually own their homes and are pround of them. No mortgages to contend with.

It is every Belizeans birthrite to be given land. Inside their homes you will see Sat TV's. DVD's etc. etc. All mod cons. Cell phones, you name it.
Posted By: Ernie B

Re: Sorry for the delay - 06/12/06 11:29 PM

What colour are your glasses beachboy?
Posted By: NYgal

Re: Sorry for the delay - 06/13/06 12:52 AM

Thanks JD and Dianne....good review.

We all have opinions and you did well with yours smile
Posted By: travelqueen

Re: Sorry for the delay - 06/14/06 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by Sun&sand:
By our US standards, these residents are poor. But, by island native standards, these people are rich beyond means. They have food to eat, a roof over their heads, and their children are healthy. They are not encumbered by trying to keep up with the "Jones" or get the bigger/better/faster/fancier whatever. They go home at night after a hard days work and feel like they have done a good job, spend time with their families, and rest before starting it all over again the next day. Here in the states, we go home, hit the computer/wallstreet journal/industry or trade magazines, drink too much, get ulcers and ignore the family in the quest of getting more and more stuff to make our lives easier. The Belizians have it figured out. Not having the "stuff" keeps them free. I am learning a lot from them, and hope to incorporate this into my life here in the states. Have gotten rid of a bunch of stuff, with more to go, but already feel lighter.
I totally agree. Everytime I return home from SP I get rid of a lot of useless stuff. I believe that a less cluttered home/car/office makes for a much less cluttered life!! If we let ourselves, we really can learn a lot from the Belizeans.
Posted By: beachboy

Re: Sorry for the delay - 06/15/06 02:40 AM

immissing I have lived with Belizeans for many years before I even came to Belize. I know Belizean people here who are worth millions yet they appear poor when you look at them. Some even ride an old bicycle around and do not have a car, it is values nothing more.

Do not be deceived by appearances. I really know this culture better than most gringo's and have been fully accepted amongst the locals wherever I have lived here so far.

In order to fully understand the culture you have to live under the skin of the country and stop thinking like a gringo.

I have been down to my last 20 cents once after being robbed of a substantial amount of money. It was the locals who gave me the confidence to fight my way back.

The Belizean people are a wonderful people, my wife is one such example. Unassuming and not boastful unlike myself. Living life to the full yet caring about others.
Posted By: JDTremblay

Re: Sorry for the delay - 06/15/06 12:43 PM

Keep in mind everyone I NEVER said I didnt love the people that I met If you read my words you will see it was the cost of living that was too high for us. We are by no means rich and maybe this is why we cant live there. If some think I was putting down the people of the island they are wrong I have been poor before and know what it is like.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Sorry for the delay - 06/15/06 01:34 PM

JD - you were so excited to get there, was it everything you hoped? Do you think you'll go back?
Posted By: Sun&sand

Re: Sorry for the delay - 06/15/06 09:10 PM

I didn't think you were putting them down, JD. My daughter said almost the very same thing you said, when she first visited the island. Now, she says they are far richer than we are in that they know how to be comfortable with themselves, and that isn't improved by getting all of the "stuff" that we have. We arent' rich by US standards, either, but we have waaaayyyy too much stuff, and by lightening the load, we are getting to enjoy each other instead of the stuff. I don't think it is for every one, tho...and the fact that you recognize that you wouldn't be inspired to live there doesn't reflect on anything other than the fact you know yourself and what you are capable of. Not all of us are that fortunate. We have to try it for a while to determine if we will like it, and if it doesn't work, it's back home, with the newfound knowledge that you already have.
Posted By: Kra-Z-K

Re: Sorry for the delay - 06/16/06 04:07 AM

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Originally posted by travelqueen:
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I totally agree. Everytime I return home from SP I get rid of a lot of useless stuff. I believe that a less cluttered home/car/office makes for a much less cluttered life!! If we let ourselves, we really can learn a lot from the Belizeans. [/b]
Very well said. We sure can and do learn a lot from them. thanks for that post, it reminded me of another reason why I love Belize.
Posted By: JDTremblay

Re: Sorry for the delay - 06/16/06 12:57 PM

To answer Law

Yes we will be back to SP probally a once a year trip depending on airfare
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Sorry for the delay - 06/16/06 01:37 PM

Good for you! Sounds like you've got the bug!
Posted By: Phil

Re: Sorry for the delay - 06/16/06 04:23 PM

Beachboy. Fair play on the positives of the people comment, but surely you didnít mean to say there is very little poverty in Belize and certainly none on the Caye.

Take a walk around San Pedrito, San Mateo, Boca del Rio, San Juan, DFC etc and don't let appearances fool you. Happy yes, but many have nothing in terms of a disposable income.

Rose Tinted glasses was a kind response.
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