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What's this I hear about cenote diving?

Posted By: seashell

What's this I hear about cenote diving? - 12/11/03 08:42 PM

I've heard that Protech is purporting to offer cenote diving. Is that accurate info?
Posted By: toad

Re: What's this I hear about cenote diving? - 12/11/03 08:54 PM

yes...bring plenty of cenotes and they'll take you diving....
Posted By: Lan Sluder/Belize First

Re: What's this I hear about cenote diving? - 12/11/03 09:01 PM

The Blue Hole is just an underwater cenote, so any dive shop that goes to the Blue Hole does cenote diving.

--Lan Sluder
Posted By: dogmatic prevaricator

Re: What's this I hear about cenote diving? - 12/11/03 09:16 PM

yeah, cave diving is pretty exilarating until you kick up silt, and the flow envelops you in it, and can't see jack shit.
Posted By: Katie Valk

Re: What's this I hear about cenote diving? - 12/12/03 01:53 AM

Sharks Cave between South Water Caye and Tobacco Caye, it's great. Requires special certification. Lots of cenote diving and snorkeling along the Yucatan coast from Cancun down to Tulum.
Posted By: seashell

Re: What's this I hear about cenote diving? - 12/12/03 11:29 AM

Thanks, yes, I'm reasonably well acquainted with the cenote diving in Mexico.

I'm asking if there REALLY is any cenote diving in BELIZE.

Hey, Gaz? Hey, Protek, whassup?!
Posted By: Gaz Cooper

Re: What's this I hear about cenote diving? - 12/12/03 03:33 PM

Hey Seashell

I am not aware of any cenotes with the exception of the mainland Blue Hole, I did take a well known cave diver to dive a cave system around the basil jones area a few years ago but that certianly was not a cenote it was just big enough for him to crawl through.

I am sure Protech will eventually comment on this questions also.

Gaz
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: What's this I hear about cenote diving? - 12/12/03 05:46 PM

Gaz is quite right. We will comment when we have something to say. At present we're in the research stage. But yes, if it's possible and attractive we will offer cave diving (are cenotes just caves in Spanish or are they special types of caves?).
Posted By: ckocian

Re: What's this I hear about cenote diving? - 12/12/03 06:15 PM

A cenote is an underground pool in a cave in which the ceiling has collapsed; that is, a fresh water cenote. Cave in Spanish is cueva.
Posted By: seashell

Re: What's this I hear about cenote diving? - 12/12/03 09:04 PM

Thank you, Gaz. Thank you Protek. Then the answer to my question is that your are *not* offering cenote dives and that my friend is being fed a load of bunk.
Posted By: Lan Sluder/Belize First

Re: What's this I hear about cenote diving? - 12/13/03 03:37 AM

To clarify, the famous Blue Hole off the Humminbird Highway is a classic fresh-water cenote, as is part of the lake at Five Blues National Park also off the Hummingbird.

But the Blue Hole at Lighthouse atoll is ALSO a cenote -- a large one and of course salt water not fresh, but it is geologically about the same as the land cenotes in Belize or in the Yucatan.

--Lan Sluder
Posted By: silkpainter

Re: What's this I hear about cenote diving? - 12/13/03 03:41 AM

What about the underwater caves on the west side of Caye Caulker? Anybody know anything about those?
--Lee
Posted By: chismera

Re: What's this I hear about cenote diving? - 12/13/03 03:51 AM

People died in there. The bodies are still there.
Posted By: Katie Valk

Re: What's this I hear about cenote diving? - 12/13/03 03:03 PM

What Chismera says is true-people died in that cave and many others. Cave diving is very dangerous and requires specific certification. I would not put my life in the hands of someone researching that (or the spanish lanaguage...)
Posted By: Protech Belize

Re: What's this I hear about cenote diving? - 12/13/03 09:02 PM

I am in the process of exploring the local cave systems, and depend in my work load, I am hopping to begin to offer cave diving training in the near future.

We offer cave tours to certified cave diver, and train divers to all level of technical diving up to Trimix Instructor Trainer level (the person that certify instructors). Additionally, we provide training on most type of semi closed and closed circuit rebreathers (CCR) and naturally recreational diving.

Technical diving, rebreather diving, and cave diving can be extremely dangerous with out proper training.

We are one of the only location in the world that is able to train Trimix divers to the new IANTD Expedition Trimix program (train to 400 feet/ 120 meters). I am a Member of the IANTD Board of Advisors (BOA), and one of the very few IANTD Trimix Instructor Trainer Trainer (ITT).

Definition: "Cenote are part of a cave ceiling, which collapsed leaving a natural entrance to the underground river systems. The Mayans call these sinkholes "Dznot" (sacred well), hence the Spanish word Cenote.

Roni Liberman
Training Director
IANTD Trimix ITT
TDI, SDI, DAN Instructor Trainer
Posted By: toad

Re: What's this I hear about cenote diving? - 12/13/03 09:06 PM

i hope your classes make more sense than your messages............
Posted By: seashell

Re: What's this I hear about cenote diving? - 12/13/03 09:07 PM

Roni, what cave(s) are you currently offering? And what cenotes are you considering? And at what place in time do you think these dives will be available for my friends?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: What's this I hear about cenote diving? - 12/14/03 01:30 AM

Roni, just out of curiosity do you know,

Andy Phillips
Resident PADI Course Director
D.S.A.T. Technical Diving Instructor Trainer
PADI/IANTD Trimix Instructor Trainer
Specialty Instructor Trainer
NSS-CDS Full Cave Diver

and/or

Marc Sofer
Dive Center Head Instructor
PADI Master Instructor
TDI Extended Range Diver
DAN Oxygen Provider Instructor
IANTD Advanced EANx Instructor
Specialty Instructor
Rebreather Instructor
NSS-CDS Full Cave Diver

They’re in your neck of the woods…
Posted By: Protech Belize

Re: What's this I hear about cenote diving? - 12/14/03 03:31 AM

Toad:
Yes, my courses do make better sense than my massages. English is not my first language.

Seashell:
At the moment we offer guided cave trip to certified cave divers to the Mexican Rock cave, and to the cave in the channel. The cave in Cay Caulker is extremely long, over 10 years ago they run over 10,000 feet of line inside, and did not reach the end. All, of this caves are sea caves, and are very different from the Mexican Centos (just come back from one month cave diving in Mexico). Normally sea caves are not as decorated, and the one I dove were cover with red, orange, and white soft corals, with lobsters and nice variety of sea fish. Challenging caves. I received some report of in-land Cenotes in the shrimp farms area, I planning to check them out.

Idaho_diver:
I do not know them, and as Belize is very small place I assume they live in Mexico or Honduras. I tried to search for Andy Phillips on the IANTD Instructor search engine but he is not listed.
http://www.iantd.com/search/instructors_search.htm
The President of IANTD Tom Mount is visiting us, he will be here for two weeks as part of a technical/ Rebreather event we organized, I will ask him. Will be happy to get from you their contact information.

Roni Liberman
Training Director
IANTD Trimix ITT
TDI, SDI, DAN Instructor Trainer
Posted By: seashell

Re: What's this I hear about cenote diving? - 12/15/03 01:12 AM

OK, Roni. No problem but I sure think you'd be better off if you weren't leading new customers to believe that you'd be taking them cenote diving when they arrive in a couple of weeks.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: What's this I hear about cenote diving? - 12/17/03 04:59 AM

Andy Phillips is in Utila Honduras.
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