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Any palm tree disease treaters on the island?

Posted By: Belize-N-Us

Any palm tree disease treaters on the island? - 07/03/12 04:22 PM

Since Cris has gone back to the US are there any experts on palm tree illnesses / treatments on the island?

I see a lot of what I think is leathal yellow on the south end and it looks like Island Academy is going to lose all their palms. I'm concerned that my transplanted palms may be in the early stages of leathal yellow disease but hoping they have something easier to treat.

Not sure when I'll be back for a visit so I need someone reliable to arrange treating my palms before it's too late.

Thanks
Posted By: BrusselSprout

Re: Any palm tree disease treaters on the island? - 07/03/12 04:47 PM

http://www.sanpedroscoop.com/2012/02/coconut-trees-who-knew.html ---> I wrote this a little while ago...and I know that he is off the island during the summer. I'll let you know if I know of anyone else!
Posted By: shuffles

Re: Any palm tree disease treaters on the island? - 07/03/12 04:57 PM

There is a guy in Florida, who used to live here. We bought the injection kit and tetracycline from him. Let me see if I can find his email. I'll post here.
Posted By: shuffles

Re: Any palm tree disease treaters on the island? - 07/03/12 04:59 PM

Brian
[email protected]h.net
Posted By: KateV

Re: Any palm tree disease treaters on the island? - 07/03/12 06:07 PM

you can get everything you need at Prosser in Belize City.

Prosser Fertilizer and Agrotec
8 miles western Hwy 223-5384
71 Nrorth Front st. 223-5599
Posted By: Mike Campbell

Re: Any palm tree disease treaters on the island? - 07/03/12 08:21 PM

The first symptom of Lethal Yellowing is that all the blooms turn black and all the nuts large and small fall off. After that its already too late. The top growth sprout turns yellow and can be seen from a distance. Whole tree does not necessarily look yellow, just the top. After that the top breaks off and you are left with a toothpick.
More common is the palm beetle ., The bottom leaves droop and start to turn yellow before it dies. Lethal Yellowing is very distinctive in its symptoms and easy to diagnose. First look at the blooms, if they are black and it drops all the fruit its L.Y. if not black and still has fruit its the beetles.
Posted By: Belize-N-Us

Re: Any palm tree disease treaters on the island? - 07/03/12 09:16 PM

Fruit is there. Tops not yellow. Bottom frons turning yellow with spots similar to what human fungus looks like.

Some look healthier than others making me think that some have a problem.

I need someone to go make the correct diagnosis and provide the treatment for me as I'm state side and won't be back for a while.
Posted By: TravelinMan1

Re: Any palm tree disease treaters on the island? - 07/03/12 10:33 PM

Most if not all the Island Academy palms are orange coconut which is a decease resistant tree.

On the south end most of the issues are Lethal Yellowing or beetle related. By the time they are discovered it is generally easier to cut them down and start growing a new one. If it is not done quickly they will infect other trees. They need to be cut and then burned.
Posted By: Amanda Syme

Re: Any palm tree disease treaters on the island? - 07/04/12 12:01 AM

//ambergriscaye.com/cocopalms/
There are a number of photos and descriptions on this page that could help.

Indeed the palms at the Island Academy are Malay Dwarf Palms which are a hybrid tree designed to be resistant to the lethal yellowing.

There are worms, beetles, the lethal yellowing and other blights to contend with - if you are seeing ill effects on your trees you need to cut them down and burn them or the disease or bug will spread even when the tree is dead. Burn it and haul it to the dump.

While we are talking about trees, if you have a bunch of coconuts that are opened up for their milk and the rest of the nut is discarded the debris will attract the coconut beetle to the area. So you should use the nut as well as the milk or again you need to haul the nuts off to the dump or you will bring the beetles into your area. Pheromone traps for the beetle are interesting but again can have some undesirable effects so please be sure to investigate your solutions thoroughly before employing them.
Posted By: Phil

Re: Any palm tree disease treaters on the island? - 07/04/12 01:01 AM

I had a tree infected with the beetle once. I realised there was a problem when the top half of the tree just fell off one day. It was up there with the worst smells I have ever encountered, made even less pleasant when the nearby bees nest blamed me for the demise of their food source and attacked en masse. Amanda's husband kindly lent me a man and a chainsaw to cut what was left down and set it on fire. That was fun.
Posted By: Mike Campbell

Re: Any palm tree disease treaters on the island? - 07/04/12 01:10 AM

Only succes i have had saving beetle infested trees was with malathion. I get up in the tree with a gallon jug of malathion and pour it between the fronds and truck every frond and it gets into the hole the beetles make. If it dies be prepared to kill the beetles by hand when it comes down.
Instead of cutting and leaving a stump you can spend about an hour or so and dig all around and under the root ball and the weight of the tree will pull out the root ball then you cut it up and fill the hole but no stump left.
Posted By: Mike Campbell

Re: Any palm tree disease treaters on the island? - 07/04/12 01:17 AM

Best example of Malaysian Dwarfs are what you see in Chetumal and they are resistant to L. Y. but dont grow tall and the nut has no meat only water.
The most common hybrid is the Maypan which is bred by crossing the Malaysian Dwarf and the Panama Tall. That is what forestry sells I believe. It is a hybrid so it does not reproduce itself only one of the parents. Each hybrid must be cross pollenated by hand.
Posted By: Cooper

Re: Any palm tree disease treaters on the island? - 07/04/12 03:54 AM

Central farm in Cayo..BAHIA..email them pics of your trees..our dwarf coconut trees got yellowing, They are not immune to the disease, only resistant, one died we saved a few by drilling holes 6 inches into the trees and injecting them with tetrocycline(sp?) every 4 days for about a month, they are great help and very nice folks. They will diagnoise the problem if images you send are able to show what the problem is.
Posted By: Diane Campbell

Re: Any palm tree disease treaters on the island? - 07/05/12 03:54 AM

I think rotten conch trumps coconut beetle stink.
How's that for a hijack.
:-)

Back on topic - I ordered the product from tree-save and it works. There is one technical issue though - the delivery sleeve is a modified shot-gun shell and a shipment of such items can cause customs great concern.

Posted By: oughwl

Re: Any palm tree disease treaters on the island? - 07/05/12 08:58 AM

Dianes suggestion works very well against the beetles. We've used the product Tree Saver and managed to save all of our trees but one. Merp Inc. dba Tree Saver 17894 73 CT. N Loxahatchee Fl. 33470 (561) 655-6940
In order to get around the shell issue we drilled holes as specified in the directions that came with the syringe and solution, inserted short pieces of bamboo into the holes, sealed the outer end with silicone and injected through the dried silicone.
The reason for the sealant is to prevent the product from leaking back out of the tree. The solution is oxytetracycline Hydrochloride. I would imagine if you preferred you could also use brass or stainless tubing from one of the hardware stores.
I would also contact the company to get accurate dimensions for the shell material.
This worked reasonably well, maybe not as well as the shells, but it worked. Very Very important not to use the coconuts after treatment or allow anyone else to.
Posted By: Chica Blanca

Re: Any palm tree disease treaters on the island? - 07/05/12 02:25 PM

The good thing about coconut trees is that they grow very fast and are cheap. Removal of a diseased tree is best, otherwise it will become a vector for other pests and infections. Pouring a gallon of poison, there by eliminating ever using the fruit, will also poison the ground water beneath it. Plant a resistant variety, remove a tree at any signs of the beetle or infection (or you will loose more) and enjoy the trees while they last.
Remember coconuts are not native to the Caribbean, so they will also suffer more disease and pest then native palms and can pass sickness to the native species. The only animals benefiting from the coconut food growing on these shores are humans and some beetles that carry a virus. We on average loose five trees a year due to storms or disease, replant ten and cut down ones we don't like how they turned out. Keeps things interesting.

Here's the hubby ( Capt. Coconut) replanting with our potlicker.

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Posted By: Amanda Syme

Re: Any palm tree disease treaters on the island? - 07/05/12 06:16 PM

Yes that is the truth chica blanca. Plant at least 2 for each one you lose and remember that if you plant them in front of your window you will have a period of 2 or 3 years when you will have no view - well a view of the tree fronds.

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