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Bridge toll to North Isalnd

Posted By: CBXBob

Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/26/15 01:33 AM

I've made three trips across the bridge to visit businesses North of the bridge in my rented golf cart, and so far have paid the toll both ways for a total of $30 Bzd. Can anyone explain what this about, and is there a monthly pass? I'm coming to the end of my stay here, but curious, and an explanation may help future visitors. Thanks in advance.
Bob
Posted By: bzpinguino

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/26/15 01:42 AM

As 'they' say... Welcome to Belize..
Posted By: Shyboy

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/26/15 01:56 AM

I am a new owner and am North of the bridge. I will let the other members "chime in" BUT you're complaining about $15.00 U.S.... You are paying a "toll" for the cost of the bridge. Not too long ago there was some type of "raft" that took you across. Hey forum members; how much did that cost?
The ONLY complaint I have about the toll is that you no longer can buy a round trip or a "bunch" of trips. I used to purchase $20.00 U.S.at a time to avoid the hassle of paying each time.
Posted By: ragman

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/26/15 02:11 AM

Monthly passes are available at the Town Council building on Front Street.
Posted By: CBXBob

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/26/15 02:49 AM

Where did you hear me "complain" in my post? I asked a question.
Posted By: CBXBob

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/26/15 02:51 AM

Thank you Jim for your information, may help inform future visitors smile
Posted By: Diane Campbell

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/26/15 12:34 PM

I think the toll is far to high. But it is what is. $10 bz round trip, or a monthly pass for $150 bz.
The trucks pay anywhere from $25 to $150 !
Posted By: Shyboy

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/26/15 01:00 PM

Sorry Bob, you are correct; there was no complaint.

Other forum members; question. What was the "ferry method" before the bridge and how much did it cost? Just curious.
Posted By: Diane Campbell

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/26/15 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Shyboy
Sorry Bob, you are correct; there was no complaint.

Other forum members; question. What was the "ferry method" before the bridge and how much did it cost? Just curious.



There was a pontoon contraption with a rope and chain and two men who pulled the thing across the river. Any more than two carts at a time was dangerous, but often the limits were pushed. People and bicycles also jammed on willy nilly. In a strong wind or current this was a hard vessel to control. Long ago it was sufficient for the scant traffic it served. It was not manned at night. Eventually it became a real safety hazard. Cost was $5 bz per cart each way.
Posted By: mawags

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/26/15 02:37 PM

We did the bridge last week, they would only let us pay one way at a time
Posted By: Marty

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/26/15 03:06 PM

from Diane....

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Posted By: Shyboy

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/26/15 04:56 PM

Thanks Diane and Marty. That picture is priceless and I have saved it. With the bridge AND the new road, I'll consider it a well spent toll.

Yes; the new system is crazy. I used to buy tickets $20.00 U.S. at a time and peel one off each time I crossed the bridge. The reason given is that some people lost the tickets and had to buy them again. Not only does it slow traffic; it creates more temptation to steal as I now just hand them the money and just keep going.

Posted By: ScubaLdy

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/27/15 03:24 AM

Ah - the memories --- and the stories.

The pull ferry toll was the same as the bridge toll now is. The difference was we paid $5 BZ each way and it closed from 8:00PM till 6:00 AM. After hours there may or may not be guys hanging around who would take you across for whatever they could take you for. Monthly passes were $150 BZ.

The pull ferry could hold 4 standard sized golf cart or two golf carts and a bunch of bicycles OR 50 bikes with riders. Well maybe not 50 but it seemed like it.

During morning rush hour, noon to 1:00 and 4:00 to 5:00 it would be next to impossible for a golf cart to get on. They were supposed to allow two golf carts on then pedestrians then bikes. HA HA HA At times the police were even there trying to keep order.

I had not overcome all of my type A personality and I spent many frustrated times there trying to CONTROL the situation. The workmen would just laugh at me and crowd ahead. One time so many loaded on going into town that the tenders could not push off from the bottom AND no one would get off to lighten the load. Finally the two tenders got in the water and pushed and pulled until they broke it free.

Another time I had my camera and said I was taking pictures for the newspaper and about half the guys hid their faces (no one ever checked for illegals).

remembers the Hammock House? There was a Keno type board where you could place a bet for what date the next golf cart would go in the drink.

When the tide was high the plywood plank that they laid down as an on ramp would be very steep. One day while trying to climb it my cart kept rolling backwards. Everyone was yelling “gun it”. After several tries I shot up onto the ferry and hit the golf cart that was already on it. It shot forward and fortunately some big guys caught it while only the front wheels were hanging over the water.

Many of us who lived north of the bridge fought having it built. We knew what would happen no matter how many promised were made. They absolutely swore that nothing bigger than a golf card would be allowed. How long did that last?
Back then all the resorts transported their guest by boat. Ah, but we are attracting a whole different type of tourist then.

How much more colorful that was than an air conditioned, tinted windowed SUV taxi. As I sit by my pound and watch them go by gawking out the windows I feel like they are on safari and I am the wild life.
Posted By: GBS39

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/27/15 11:11 AM

Believe it was Bob...of the Cloisters that started the 'tow ferry' and Bowen who put up the money for the Bridge.

The bar that was on the north side of the bridge had a contest on when the next golf cart would fall off of the ferry.

Pls feel free to 'correct' any errors.

Posted By: LandRover

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/27/15 12:43 PM

Agree Diane, the cost is too high. And a known fact that not everyone who should be paying the same amount, is paying their share! It sure is an added cost to living North of the Bridge
Posted By: elbert

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/27/15 01:34 PM

Most residents pay monthly for a pass. Shortly after the officer at the bridge recognizes you as a monthly pass buyer and waves you through without stopping. This helps with the smooth flow of traffic at the bridge.
You can purchase the pass quickly and easy at the cashiers window upstairs at the Town Board.
My motorcycle pass is $25. bz per month.
Posted By: Phil

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/27/15 01:45 PM

Disagree cost is too high. I could be persuaded the funds could/should be used for the bridge itself - but less than US$2.50 day for residents is a decent price to pay for a Bridge over the Hand Ferry - which cost the same as the toll btw.
Posted By: GBS39

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/27/15 02:39 PM

Believe Bob of Cloister fame stated that the toll was the highest per distance in the World.
Posted By: RobertJ

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/27/15 04:45 PM

Ok, Phil ......
Kind of an elitist remark, but ..... what do you expect?
I concur with GBS39 ..... and infer that the bridge toll is ridiculous.
The ferry idea is cool .... drop the fee some; make it worthwhile.
Posted By: Phil

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/27/15 08:29 PM

RobertJ. Not following you. I am far from elitist if that's your drift. What do I expect? Nothing is free, Sir.

Cyclists and pedestrians however are free to cross, so low income folk and the huge Northern workforce aren't affected - other than positively in being easily able to cross the river at any time. Those who can afford a vehicle can afford a pittance of a toll. I'd actually like to see the toll added to one of the permits for vehicles so we don't need a bridge supervision. You'd be really upset if the bridge closed due to lack of funds for repairs and a Private addition while welcome added a new expenditure on maintenance which is probably reactive rather than preventative but we're in the Third World.

The bridge was built with private funds and the toll was to repay the loan. As noted earlier it is the same as it was to cross on the hand ferry and vastly superior if less fun. Initially, I believe, the toll was to stop being collected when the loan was repaid which it has been. SPTC kept it as it is clearly a good money earner. I think it is good value especially with a road to go with it which may or may not be linked. The Ferry was a nightmare at busy times, almost impossible to get on when the construction crews all knocked off and an hour wait was not unheard of.
Posted By: Phil

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/27/15 08:41 PM

I think it would be good to incorporate the Ferry fee as another yearly Sticker or as part of one of the other vehicle stickers. It would stop the bottle neck at the foot of the bridge and save costs not requiring a collector and police/traffic who could certainly be utilised better elsewhere.

Posted By: Johnhenry

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/27/15 10:32 PM

But a yearly sticker wouldn't eradicate tourists travelling north of the bridge. So all rental carts would have to have the bridge stickers. Stickers in themselves though wouldn't prevent non payers from crossing the bridge if it were not supervised.
Delays when they occur are not that onerous though. What's a few minutes out of anyone's day. There are much bigger things to get 'stressed' over.
Posted By: Johnhenry

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/27/15 11:00 PM

The old ferry was 'cool'. But that was when the population north of the bridge was minuscule in comparison to what it is now (and will grow to). You'd need a fleet of ferries to attempt to cope. And they'd fail. Or if they succeeded boats entering /leaving the Caribbean would be queued up waiting for the opportunity to head west/east.
Posted By: Phil

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/28/15 01:32 PM

The sticker idea was more about freeing personnel for other duties than the bottleneck.
Posted By: Johnhenry

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/28/15 01:55 PM

Can you imagine what the bottleneck would be like if the means of crossing reverted to a hand ferry.
Posted By: RobertJ

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/28/15 04:43 PM

Ok, Phil .....I'll go along with that..... those who live north with carts should pay .... serves 'em right.
Posted By: Phil

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/28/15 05:33 PM

To spell it out for you Robert. It costs the same as it did twenty years ago to cross the bridge, it's open 24hrs a day and free for about ten, you never have to wait, it's unlikely your cart will get dumped in the water. Oh did I mention it costs the same. The End.
Posted By: Johnhenry

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/28/15 07:06 PM

When the bridge was opened the cost to cross it for a golf cart was BZ$5. Nine years to 2015 and the cost to cross the bridge is BZ$5. What else has remained at the same price? I'd say the cost has effectively gone down.
Posted By: Shyboy

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/29/15 02:47 AM

New road... New bridge... Same price as "joke" ferry... What a deal... I'm a happy camper.
Posted By: LandRover

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/29/15 04:28 AM

Robert J : Why would you say it serves us right having a golf cart, and living North? Not understanding the ugliness to that comment.... Is this a problem for you?
Posted By: Phil

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/29/15 01:37 PM

I think it might have been a poor attempt at sarcasm, aimed at me.
Posted By: RobertJ

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/29/15 02:13 PM

Right on both counts.

I also hate to see the Miami-ization/Cancun-ization of any previously unspoiled destination.

But I guess that's my hang-up (Hey....gotta have yer condos and shlockies)......

Ya Can't Stop ......(ahem) "PROGRESS" .....!
Posted By: Johnhenry

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/30/15 03:36 AM

My curiosity got the better of me. What are shlockies ? And what is it in the singular?
Posted By: RobertJ

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/30/15 03:18 PM

"Shlockies" refers to the glitzy, cheesy, made-in-China, touristy, non-island stuff that many gringos seem to have to own and experience.
Belize is unique. I like to think that's why folks come here; to live a small portion of a life that is not part of their existence the rest of the year.
The Americanization of just about everywhere South of the Border is disheartening.

My feeling has always been, "If you want Miami, stay in Miami"

BTW, singular of "shlockies"=shlock
Posted By: Shyboy

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/30/15 04:59 PM

YEP; you are correct... That's exactly why people go camping.. You can get out of the tent in the morning and fish in the nearby stream, go for a hike and all that "good" stuff. Then you can go back to the Schlocky life at home. There are other people who love to fish, scuba, snorkel and tube... Yep some of them even live North of the bridge; they must have different values.

Let's get a Southern San Pedro battle flag made up and curse them damn Yankees up north.
Posted By: SimonB

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/30/15 06:04 PM

"I also hate to see the Miami-ization/Cancun-ization of any previously unspoiled destination."

Unfortunately it's a fact of life. http://geographyfieldwork.com/ButlerModel.htm We are in stage 3.
Posted By: AJ Baxter

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/30/15 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by SimonB
"I also hate to see the Miami-ization/Cancun-ization of any previously unspoiled destination."

Unfortunately it's a fact of life. http://geographyfieldwork.com/ButlerModel.htm We are in stage 3.


SimonB - Excellent reference!

The problem was those damn British, French, Spanish and Portuguese explorers 500 years ago. They should have kept the secret to themselves and burned their ships!
Posted By: AJ Baxter

Re: Bridge toll to North Isalnd - 07/30/15 08:32 PM

I forgot to include the Dutch as well in the blame list!

We should also compliment the Vikings for keeping the secret of the new world.
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