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Posted By: MALIBU

question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/16/04 08:19 PM

I see you are a pet behavior consultant - Might you answer a question or two?

1. Female golden retriever has, since birth, acted as if she is covering something in her food bowl. She will do this before, during, and after a meal. She has literally rubbed all the black off her nose which is now pink.

2. We started making their (we have the female (7) and a male (8)) dog food about 4 months ago. She scarfs it down and she does not hang around to "cover" it like she used to do the Science Diet we previously fed her.

OK, that is it. If you lived her in the states you could ask me something about home financing, since that is what I do, but since you don't I do not know how I might be able to reciprocate for your answer.....

Thank You
Posted By: MALIBU

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/17/04 08:54 PM

~BUMP~
:rolleyes:
Posted By: CrackerLarry

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/17/04 09:08 PM

Malibu, I'm not a pet behavior specialist, but I do raise Golden Retrievers and Labs. I'll respond since no one else has yet. My thoughts are that the lady may have been suffering from a vitamin or mineral defficieny.

My personal opinion is that Science Diet is over rated and over priced.
Posted By: Denny Shane

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/17/04 09:47 PM

Well, I'm not a pet behavioral doctor, nor do I have any dogs, or cats, canaries, or anything else. After studying your question indept Mailbu, the answer just popped right out at me and you gave us the answer yourself.

She obviously LOVES the Science Diet so much so she lets everyone know... try and take my food and you suffer the consequences.

On the other hand now that you make her food, and she obviously doesn't care if you or anyone else takes it... she's almost begging someone to come and take it.

I am hoping you'll offer me the same advice for free. I have my eye on this beautiful house in Bellaire for 2.5 million. I have exactly $57.63 in cash. My question is: should I buy pizza tonight or buy 57 lottery tickets for tonight? eek
Posted By: MALIBU

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/20/04 03:42 PM

Cracker: You've got my vote on Science Diet= overrated and overpriced. Also it is packed FULL of fillers... Very interesting - vitamin or mineral deficiency. Do you by chance make your own dog food? It is a large chore! Just made 130 lbs this weekend. The kids (doggies, not human kids of which we have none) absolutely LOVE it. We have been advised by Vet to feed certain amounts but the kids look too underweight to mom and pop so they are getting over double what the Vet suggested.

Denny: Get a small Pizza and 30 lotto tickets.
Good luck!!! laugh
Posted By: CrackerLarry

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/20/04 05:10 PM

Malibu, no, we don't make our own dog food, other than what's left over from dinner. They do get all the scraps, especially vegtables and meat.

Believe it or not, we have been getting the best results lately from the Walmart brand, Ole Roy. It is available in low and high protein. This feed has given us the best health, coat and weight management of anything we have found. Been raising dogs for over 30 years BTW. Hardworking hunting dogs, not couch potatoes (except for one female Golden who is most definately a couch potatoe). The vet always comment on their health and can't believe it when we tell him what they eat. Of course, the vet pushes Eukanuba, which is right there with Science Diet IMHO.

My second choice is Field Trial. Another very good feed for a reasonable price.

Used to be a fan of Purina, but we had several dogs develop cancer at early ages so gave it up. I don't know, but we hadn't had any more trouble like that in a few years.
Posted By: jumpingjean

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/20/04 06:54 PM

Hello, This question has nothing to do with dogs. I will be arriving in AC on September 24th.
Can anyone tell me what where

would be a great place to hang on Friday evening?

Thanks,
JumpingJean
Posted By: Catatonic Motivator

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/20/04 08:36 PM

This has got to be the best thread on this board to date. Oh, except for advanced diving topics and such.
Posted By: Denny Shane

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/20/04 08:45 PM

jumpingjean... you could start off by telling us where you're staying... that way we can tell you what's fairly close to ya.
Posted By: ChrisW

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/20/04 09:15 PM

Dear pet shrinks and pet shrink wanabees,

Our dog likes to snack in between meals at our cat's litter box. Our vet told us that this is perfectly "natural". But I am convinced that it is a sign of a major psychological problem and that it should be treated with electric shock or brain surgery or some other drastic method. Any suggestions?
Posted By: CrackerLarry

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/20/04 09:17 PM

Chris, if you think that's bad, mine likes to snack in the chicken yard. Suggestion: don't kiss the dogs!
Posted By: seashell

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/20/04 09:39 PM

My cousin never has to clean up after her dog. The dog eats her own mess. Ick.
Posted By: ChrisW

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/20/04 10:18 PM

"My cousin never has to clean up after her dog. The dog eats her own mess. Ick."

Your cousin might want to get a patent on that concept. It sounds like some sort of perpetual motion machine. laugh

Anyways, I am going to try sprinkling some hot sauce onto a few of the kitty made "treats" to see if that does anything.
Posted By: Seachange

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/20/04 10:45 PM

Regarding ChrisW's "issues", our vet also confirms that it is normal. He uses the unfortunate term "litter fritters". It is difficult to know what is normal though, because we have always had Shelties, and they (and we) are far from normal.
Posted By: Denny Shane

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/20/04 10:59 PM

oh my God... and here I always thought some of the people on this board was nutty... including me. What are you people doing to your pets? laugh... and seashell, by any chance is your cousin from Alabama?
eek
Posted By: jumpingjean

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/21/04 02:49 AM

Denny Shane,

Staying at Paradise Villas will be staying in AC for about a month. Any input would be greatly appreciated. By the way been reading message board for the past year first time, I actually logged on. Thought it would be great to converse with some of you guys. Thanks for responding!
Posted By: Teenah

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/21/04 05:39 AM

Seashell.....that was too much information for me!

jumpingjean, Fidos is always good on Friday night. Have a great trip.
Posted By: collyk

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/21/04 07:19 AM

whoa...just woke up to find this...sorry I have not replied earlier as I have been abroad....well abroad for me...anyway...Hi Malibu, The behaviour you are describing is unusual though not abnormal...The behaviour is very similar to other 'primitive' behaviours such as turning several times before lying down and rolling in things that smell nasty in so much as it has little relevance to modern life for domesticated dogs. Or does it? To us it does, but these are certainly behaviours through which a dog can express itself. The apparently ritual and ineffective burying of uneaten food is likely to hark back to the days when the ancestors of the domestic dog hunted and scavenged. Remaining food would be buried for later use. The compulsive element of this behaviour in your own dog suggests some level of anxiety related to the behaviour. Often, as you have discovered, something as simple as a diet change can eliminate behaviours like this. Other approaches would include feeding in different locations, using different equipment (a plate instead of a bowl etc.) or completely changing the style of feeding (using activity balls or scatter feeding). As for the pros and cons of Science Diet, I am not a nutritionist so I cannot comment other than as a pet owner. I agree that it is overpriced, I know that vets get huge kickbacks for selling it and my last puppy would have rather starved than eat it.

Chris unfortunately the eating of poo is a very normal behaviour for dogs. Cat poo is high on the list of canine delicacies. As long as you allow your dog to have unsupervised access to cat poo, your dog will eat cat poo.

Seashell, that behaviour is fairly normal too although it should be checked with a vet. It can be genetic, learned or a sign that the dog is unwell.
Posted By: seashell

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/21/04 07:38 AM

Thanks collyk. My cousin did check it out with the vet, more than once. There is a term used to describe the condition (which I can't think of just now) but as you say, not totally abnormal, especially if the dog wasn't trained not to do it when young.

My cousin claims that she couldn't catch the little duffer doing it often enough or consistently enough to train her not to do it. The dog is getting old now, so I guess it hasn't done her much harm. And I don't mind when the dog comes to visit, because she doesn't mess up my lawn. wink

Oh yeah, and to Teenah. Sorry about that, hee hee.
Posted By: Denny Shane

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/21/04 02:13 PM

I agree with Tinah... hit Fido's on Friday nights.

Check out the food at Caribe Island... it's excellent! eek
Posted By: Denny Shane

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/21/04 02:16 PM

Honest to God... I've had dogs all my life, except lately... I've even had two cats... and I am amazed at what I am reading... I have NEVER heard of this, nor noticed any of my pets doing it.

I'm sitting here shaking my head. eek eek eek
Posted By: MALIBU

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/21/04 02:37 PM

collyk
Thank you for the info. She does twirl before she lays down and rolling in horse poo is a favorite past time of my Aunts golden. So, good to know she thinks she is a dog with most of this stuff. We thought that she thought she was our daughter... Tee He He. Ya'll know Goldens....

All right, this is enough about poo and stuff. Somebody start an interesting thread.
Posted By: USNA73

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/21/04 07:16 PM

All I can say is Science Diet works wonders for our Chester - the sweetest/meanest cat in town. She (yes, she) is ill with cancer and couldn't keep her food down. On the vet's advice we switched to SD. It works. The vet also advised buying it at the pet store to keep cost down.
Posted By: collyk

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/22/04 08:18 AM

seashell ..the term you are looking for is coprophagia.

Malibu. One can never talk about poo too much!

USNA73 The cat food is different and their prescription diets which are made for specific illnesses can be extremely helpful, nevertheless, in my country they have such control that you cannot by the prescription diets anywhere but from a vet!
Posted By: seashell

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/22/04 03:40 PM

smile Thanks collyk
Posted By: NYgal

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/23/04 12:24 AM

Seashell, our vet said to sprinkle "seasoning salt" on the food, it worked !
Did it and the dog never ate her crap again...........gross :p
Posted By: kastawayz

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/23/04 03:04 AM

Is laying around all day normal?
I mean..... getting up to eat, drink, or do business on occasion (fortunatly not eating anything unusual)... but otherwise just laying around.

I told my wife not to worry ,its probably a phase.....but she seems convinced that i'm just lazy :0
Posted By: seashell

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/23/04 06:50 AM

She should sprinkle some Marie's hot sauce on you to get you going. wink
Posted By: MALIBU

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/23/04 03:30 PM

kastawayz
This seems to be a phenomenon you speak of seems to be an issue at my house as well. The only thing that seems to cure it are the words "Come on, time to go to the Airport" cool

nygal: Do you have to continually sprinkle the seasoned salt on the food or did one time do it? After all this time our 7 yr old golden just started doing this. Disgusting!!!
Posted By: Denny Shane

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/23/04 03:59 PM

I would think you would have to keep sprinkling it until the dog stops.

However, if your dog acquires a taste for the seasoned salt, you might want to bump it up a notch and go with Marie Sharp's Extra Hot Habernero Sauce... eek
Posted By: MALIBU

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/23/04 04:08 PM

Our household regularly eats many peppers, particularly the jalapeno pepper daily and habanero salsa less frequently. If this hankering for peppers is hereditary, and we started in on the MS, the dog would simply refuse to eat her food unless we put more MS on it. THEN that would cause more and more trips to Belize to get the MS fix, and the vicious cycle would then be started.
Posted By: NYgal

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/23/04 04:39 PM

MALIBU...from recollection, it didn't take long.
As Denny said, continue the sprinkle. ( I didn't know of Marie's at the time laugh )

FYI, this was dry dog food and the dog was a doberman puppy. Yes, disgusting to say the least !!!

Now I chuckle at dbdoberman smile
Posted By: Everglades

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/23/04 06:10 PM

The thought of one of those over friendly, crap eating dogs running up to a child and licking the child's face, is enough to gag a buzzard on a gut wagon. Yuk!
Posted By: collyk

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/24/04 07:47 AM

Actually Everglades, a child has more harmful bacteria in his mouth than a dog has in his faeces. But then again, it depends on the type of faeces eaten.
Posted By: Denny Shane

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/24/04 11:34 AM

If this thread continues, Marty will be forced to start a "Eating Faeces" thread. eek
Posted By: MALIBU

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/24/04 02:36 PM

Oh Poo Poo
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/24/04 04:37 PM

I do do love this thread. . .
Posted By: Denny Shane

Re: question for COLLYK 6122 - 09/24/04 04:52 PM

I agree... it's quite refreshing to get up in the morning here in Texas... breathe in the clean, fresh air... sip my coffee and sit down to read all of these absolutely enlighting poop articles. eek
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