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Should we debate US politics on this Board?

Posted By: Amanda Syme

Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 05:24 PM

Posted By: Amanda Syme

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 07:22 PM

75 views but only 21 votes - come on guys - EVERYBODY gets to vote on this issue.
Posted By: bywarren

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 07:23 PM

If this were Chicago it would be 75 votes and 21 views.
Posted By: SP Daily

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 07:25 PM

Lotta views are people who already voted...going back to see results.
Ya can only vote once...
Posted By: iluvbelize

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 07:53 PM

Amanda, how long will the poll be in place? Just curious to know if it will be a perpetual poll, or if you have determined a definitive polling period.
Posted By: bywarren

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 08:10 PM

Also since it is a question concerning US politics, are you checking to see if only those registered to vote in the US are voting or since it is about a Belize message board can only those registered to vote in Belize cast a vote?
Posted By: Canam

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 08:23 PM

What's the big deal again? People should be able to discuss anything that isn't horribly offensive and the context is there. US politics can have reasonable effect on Belize, but again - who really cares? If it's not an interesting topic, then people will lose interest. If it is, then that is a testiment to this great forum. BTW - I voted "no" only because I'm sick of trying to sift through stupid one-liners and mud-throwers just to find an interesting point that someone may have raised.
Posted By: captjeff

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 08:26 PM

I think the board is no place for US politics..There are so many things we can chat about !!!!It will only amount to sh*t flinging and name calling!!! A no win discussion !!! this board is much better without the bull sh*t!!!! lets chat about living the dream in peace..And positive stuff about life....
Posted By: iluvbelize

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 08:30 PM

No campaining at the polling place LOL!
Posted By: sweetjane

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 08:30 PM

THANK YOU, CAPT. JEFF!!

why? -

"People should be able to discuss anything that isn't horribly offensive and the context is there." - only on this board, this tends to be the exception as often as it is the rule. usually it isn't the subject posted that is offensive, it is the comments that follow that most often are.
Posted By: bywarren

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 08:31 PM

Eleven of the last 20 topics in this forum have nothing to do with Belize. Who is to say which should and should not be included in a "chat" forum? Or on the other hand, why should one not directly related to Belize be off limits and others not? confused

PS: since this is not a "democratic" board, what is the position of our benevolet dictator?
Posted By: LaurieMar

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 08:36 PM

The problem is this: what is offensive to some is not to others: it is completely subjective. I am an advocate of freedom of speech and expression. But, the decision is not up to me, so whatever the powers that be on this board decide will have to do. Does that mean the board is policed 24/7 and how do you determine if someone crosses that fine line?
Posted By: Marty

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 08:39 PM

i ain't gonna say how i voted. i will say this. politics is not polite to speak about at the dinner table. just like pornography or excretions. tho i do occasionally stray from my best intentions.
Posted By: iluvbelize

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 08:41 PM

Agreed!
Posted By: bywarren

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 08:42 PM

Then that begs the question, is the subject of US politics inheritly offensive, or is what is being said the determining factor as to if it is offensive?
Posted By: Marty

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 08:42 PM

i would say politics in general, not just usa
Posted By: Marty

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 08:44 PM

i have been intensively political in my life, but i came to the realization you can never change anyones mind. so why beat them over the head? find another subject to talk about.
Posted By: sweetjane

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 08:44 PM

hey, warren...i mentioned that. read up ^^^^^^

marty - great answer.
Posted By: Canam

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 08:49 PM

Again - who cares. This forum is like bad television sometimes. I can't seem to pull myself away off of stupid topics even though it's Monday and I'm drowing in work. If people get butt-hurt over mis-reading something, or if someone is incapable of injecting a reasonable opinion without being rude and offensive, then maybe they should leave the commenting to others and stew in silence. People need to take responsibilty for themselves and their comments, which goes for any fancy comebacks or zingers that one may feel necessary to interject. I would love to see a poll of our ages. I swear we're a bunch of 6 year olds. I'm tired of type-writer tough-guys and boring debates that mean nothing. What kind of message does this send to new comers looking for quality information on Belize? That we like censorship or that so and so on the island is such and such. Move on.
Posted By: Amanda Syme

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by iluvbelize
Amanda, how long will the poll be in place? Just curious to know if it will be a perpetual poll, or if you have determined a definitive polling period.


24 hrs
Posted By: reaper

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 09:06 PM

Where do the moderators draw the line on politics?

As a US citizen with business interest in Belize, am I allowed to comment on Belizean elections and politics?

Do I have to sit here and not retort when SIN or Jesse take pot shots at US policy and agenda?

Do I have to read about UK politics on a Pedro2 post?

When the "fill in the blank" school in Belize is badly in need of money to function, am I allowed to speak about my views on Belizean politics?

Am I no longer allowed to joke with Rykat and the other Conservatives here about "fill in the blank" running for office?

If the Town Council approves the Casino Boat or South Beach, am I allowed to voice an opinion? Isn't that Belizean politics?

When the residents of San Pedro ask us for help stopping such crap being done on our beloved island, isn't that Belizean politics?

If a US doctor wants to become a Belizean resident and help out on the island, is that not politics?

We are sort of a dysfunctional family on here. Many posters know each other. There are very few anonymous personal attacks. Personally I could give a rat's ass how Pugwash is going to vote, that is his business. What is disgusting is how certain posters get personal with insults on other's views. The other day Jesse and Immisssing got into a F-you, no F-you kindergarten like battle. I would rather see that sort of thing stopped, than silence what can be discussed here.

So here's my vote. If you want to talk politics in any country, fine. Just be a grown up about it.
Posted By: Dita

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 09:08 PM

I want to vote for Reaper!
Posted By: bywarren

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 09:16 PM

Its pretty clear to me with Marty's comment about politics and the dinner table, that it is ok to discuss politics on the board in the chat forum as long as we are not snacking at the same time. grin
Posted By: deadserious

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 09:20 PM

Reaper for President... of both USA and Belize.
Posted By: sweetjane

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 09:26 PM

he's got my vote too.
Posted By: Hon

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 09:42 PM

Reaper??? Are you Americans insane? Do you really want your country run by a Pittsburgh Penguins fan who would turn the house of representatives into a wrastlin' arena and invite anyone who doesn't agree with him to go for a little plane ride???!!! Hmmm???!!!
Posted By: deadserious

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 10:11 PM

Would be entertaining though...
Posted By: divingcowgirl

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 10:30 PM

Well, that does it... I'm no longer writing in Mickey Mouse for prez..... Reaper is getting my vote!! So, Reaper, when you win by a landslide, will you lower air fare so I can get to Belize more often?
Posted By: sunandsand

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 11:18 PM

Hey, Reaper, you are getting my vote, too. Thanks for telling it like it is. You Rock!!!
Posted By: pugwash

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 11:42 PM

12.--(1) Except with his own consent, a person shall not be hindered in the enjoyment of his freedom of expression, including freedom to hold opinions without interference, freedom to receive ideas and information without interference, freedom to communicate ideas and information without interference (whether the communication be to the public generally or to any person or class of persons) and freedom from interference with his correspondence.

Guess which constitution this is from?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/09/08 11:54 PM

What's wrong with people raising issues of concern to them, whether about the politics of Belize or their home countries, or anything else? There's no obligation to read it.
Posted By: LaurieMar

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 12:14 AM

Bingo, Pedro 2 - so simply stated.
Posted By: Ernie B

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 12:19 AM

Reaper, I take exception to your remark that Jesse and I had a F-you kindergarten battle. Jesse referred to KLC and me as "a couple of a$$ Holes. My responce to Jesse was "Screw you". I dont normally use the F word. I got booted off. Did Jesse ? NOT !!!
Posted By: Leah-Ann

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 12:45 AM

Bingo in this corner too, Pedro. Political discussions have been a part of this board since long before certain people were endowed with access to the delete button. And apparently even they partake in expressing a their take on American Politics once in a while.
//ambergriscaye.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/19517/1.html

Originally Posted by Amanda Syme

#19500 - 07/06/05 01:02 PM Re: Central America Free Trade Agreement
Amanda Syme
Most US American citizens that I meet think that the whole world is against Cuba - when in fact the US is the only nation that has embargoes against Cuba.

Amazing what a little propoganda can do to the general population's way of thinking.


And everybody has the scroll-on-by button!
Posted By: klcman

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 12:46 AM

Sorry, E. Reaper was referring not to the mini converation the other night, but to the now deleted thread (and where this one is headed in mere hours) in which you and the distignuised plagiarst did pretty much get into a FU battle.

As regards the mini conversation, you should be happy to be included in the same category as the accuser wink Just don't ever stand BEHIND his bar stool.
Posted By: Leah-Ann

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by klcman
Just don't ever stand BEHIND his bar stool.

WHAT?!?!?!? You mean when it comes to his barstool he doesn't always practice what he preaches? wink
Originally Posted by Jesse
If people here on the island were as rude and slanderous with each other as the US "debaters" are, we couldn't live here together. Respect for each other makes it all work out in spite of different party alliances.
Posted By: klcman

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 12:54 AM

Well, the screaming & yelling DID sound a great deal like one of those televangelists! smile
Posted By: Leah-Ann

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 12:56 AM

not very respectful at all smirk
Posted By: Amanda Syme

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 01:03 AM

no time for this nonsense - too busy going swimming, watching the dolphins swim by and looking forward to the chilled glass of wine.

hope you are all enjoying life to its fullest too.

Marty, can you open a "politics" forum. let leah-ann, rykat and pugwash & pedro2 et al enjoy their screen lives without trying to drag the rest of us in.

I would vote for Reaper, with Pedro1 as vice.

Posted By: klcman

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 01:06 AM

Now THAT seems to be the most rational comment of the day with respect to resolution! Think it would work? Methinks not.
Posted By: Ernie B

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 01:08 AM

klc, Can you produce thoes comments ? And, why is the pressure on me ?
Posted By: azbob

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 01:10 AM

I've voted, but can I vote again? How many times? Do chad's count? 608 views and 59 votes. Maybe those "views" enjoy the debate and want to read personal views by the members of this board they have gotten to know, rather than just what they see and read in the media. I completely agree with Reaper, where do you draw the line. Politics are an integral part of all our lives, whether we like it or not and I don't! Just like political ads on TV, you don't have to listen, change the channel!
Posted By: klcman

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by immissing
klc, Can you produce thoes comments ? And, why is the pressure on me ?


Can't do it E....but if had admin access to the backups/deletes wink
Posted By: Ernie B

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 01:13 AM

And, if a pig had wings . . . . . .

I'll bet you have friends who will help .
Posted By: klcman

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 01:23 AM

Of course, but that would inappropriate behavior on their part and I could never consider asking. wink
Posted By: Ernie B

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 01:29 AM

Inappropiate behavoir ? Please
Posted By: Leah-Ann

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 01:51 AM

Does licking a steak knife give one a forked tongue? Just curious confused
Posted By: Ernie B

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 01:55 AM

That doesnt warrant a comment.
Posted By: sweetjane

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by sweetjane
THANK YOU, CAPT. JEFF!!

why? -

"People should be able to discuss anything that isn't horribly offensive and the context is there." - only on this board, this tends to be the exception as often as it is the rule. usually it isn't the subject posted that is offensive, it is the comments that follow that most often are.
Posted By: Short

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 02:01 AM

I wished we would debate a little more Belize politics on this Belizean Message Board.
Posted By: Leah-Ann

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by Amanda Syme
no time for this nonsense - too busy going swimming, watching the dolphins swim by and looking forward to the chilled glass of wine.

And yet an hour later, you, like us, are still here!
Amanda, your life doesn't seem all that different from anyone else's.

Originally Posted by Amanda Syme
#100214 - 04/05/05 09:08 AM Re: WANT TO CHAT WITH???
We are just in another type of rat race here. We can gaze out of the window and look at the sea, but we are still sitting at a desk 9 hours a day - working!

Just don't get why you find it necessary to be critical of those with different interests and perspectives.
Posted By: belizeonthebeach

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 02:43 AM

Well Mr. Short
Your comment brings us just about full circle.
Thank You.
Posted By: DonnaR

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 03:11 AM

I am an American who loves Belize. I come on the board to read the posts, keep up with "island" life, friends and join in a post once in a while. If the topic is (fill in the blank) and I dont particularly enjoy the topic I dont read it and ..I skip over it. Plain and simple. I dont believe in censorship by any means but as I said I have the choice to SKIP over the topics I choose not to participate in or read. I have come to the conclusion that most people on the board are "friends" or "friendly" to each other and spend time together either on the island or in the US, Canada or where ever you may reside. If they (politicos) want to discuss politics personally I could care less. So what? If you dont like it..SKIP over the topic and read about the Cuban transgendered. smile (didnt read that either LOL) JMHO. Please dont bash me (lying head low)
Posted By: Rykat

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 03:11 AM

oh well, guess the reaper gets my vote even though methinks he's a bit of a mushy Conservative! wink
Posted By: Leah-Ann

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 03:15 AM

There ya go! smile
Posted By: Amanda Syme

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 03:23 AM

Originally Posted by Leah-Ann
Originally Posted by Amanda Syme
no time for this nonsense - too busy going swimming, watching the dolphins swim by and looking forward to the chilled glass of wine.

And yet an hour later, you, like us, are still here!
Amanda, your life doesn't seem all that different from anyone else's.

Originally Posted by Amanda Syme
#100214 - 04/05/05 09:08 AM Re: WANT TO CHAT WITH???
We are just in another type of rat race here. We can gaze out of the window and look at the sea, but we are still sitting at a desk 9 hours a day - working!

Just don't get why you find it necessary to be critical of those with different interests and perspectives.


Damn, you just found out my secret - there is more than only one of me.

Must have left the computer logged in - been out swimming. Just had a great birthday dinner with the hubby and a german chocolate cake with candles! Tabu make the best cakes hands down.
Posted By: Amanda Syme

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 03:24 AM

Looks like I have a stalker. Better start watching my p's and q's - this one has an education.
Posted By: deadserious

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by Short
I wished we would debate a little more Belize politics on this Belizean Message Board.


I would honestly love that.
Posted By: RathaBnBelize

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 05:08 AM

..you mean you would like everyone to debate about such things as a political party owning a newspaper and radio station... smile
Posted By: Short

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 05:55 AM

When it doesn't interest you, don't talk about it, but you could use it as an example (although there is not much to say about this subject). For those with an interest in Belize and its politics, look under //ambergriscaye.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forums/39/1/Nation.html.
Posted By: sweetjane

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 12:22 PM

HELLO????? is anybody paying attention?

i thought we established it is not the subject matter (including politics - whether belizean or other - maintaining freedom of speech) of a post that is in question; it is the ability - or lack thereof - of some respondents to maintain an iota of maturity (ie - no personal attacks, slurs or insults) in their responses!!!!

anyone here care to do a poll asking if people are willing to agree to respond in a non-insulting fashion to any given subject??
Posted By: bywarren

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 12:44 PM

Very informative, Short. Especially Chapter II, section 12, which is expanded on in Article 1 of that section.

But I guess from the latest results of the poll, a small majority do not believe the First Ammendment of the US
Constitution or Section 12 of the Belize Constitution apply to a benevolent dictatorial message board.

Now that brings up an interesting legal question. Does content on the message board fall under the protection granted by both constitutions?

Maybe we could find an attorney willing to move to Belize and make a little extra spending money taking on this case since if he visited a couple times he would come to the conclusion that his services were much needed in Belize as Belize lawyers lack his expertice. Of course he would run into the problem of immediatly obtaining his license to practice, claiming protectionism, because the GOB has the policy of granting those licenses to those, both Belizean and foreign doctors, who have gone thru the procedure. Telling him in their way that he would be welcome to come visit, even get easy permission to reside under the QRP, but if making money was his objective, he should stay home where he has a much greater opportunity than those practicing in Belize. wink
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 01:35 PM

sweetjane - I thought cheap jibes were necessary to be accepted here?
Posted By: sweetjane

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 02:43 PM

no, not to be accepted. for survival purposes, maybe.

anyone here remember the old board, like 2000-03? the way it used to be? different animal altogether...i guess change is inevitable.

ps - amanda, i believe you have the right to do whatever the hell you please (within the law) whenever the hell you feel like it...just like everyone else. i see no reason for you to, or be put in the position to, defend any action.
Posted By: bywarren

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 03:04 PM

As we near the end of the poll and analize the results, I think it is worthy to note that the results of polls are often determined by the way the question is phrased. I wonder how many of those voting yes would vote the same if the question were "Do you think any subject not directly relating to Belize, provided it is discussed in a civil and courteous way, should be banned from the message board".

That is using your logic sweetjane that I was second to point out as you pointed out to me. grin
Posted By: iluvbelize

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 03:07 PM

I think Amanda does a bang up job at moderating. She has a great sense of humor and uses even hand in moderating. Thanks Amanda!
Posted By: Amanda Syme

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 04:09 PM

I do appreciate the support that I receive from those board members that can see that I do my level best to moderate with some thought.

I realize that we all have opinions and if yours differs from mine, so be it.

I do draw the line at foul language, personal attacks, malicious libel and suspected trolls.

I do my best to send a pm to folks if I pull their posts - with an explanation of why.

None of us are perfect and we can't please all of the people all of the time - but we can try and go with the feelings and trends of majority.

When I last looked at the poll it was running more or less 50/50. As they say on survivor - the tribe has spoken, hahaha.

I wonder if there are any US citizen moderators out there that would like to monitor the US politics threads, it tires me out so I won't be going there.

Yes Sweet Jane, I remember the old board very well.

And for those that wish to continue stalking, name calling, and making all of this personal - there is a website that glorifies that venom. They will welcome you with open arms, they will never censor you, they will show you techniques to become more effective in your attack strategies and they all wallow in their own glorification. For further details on how to join that club, just drop me a pm. You will be happy to see that they even have a dartboard with all of the Ambergris Caye admins featured.

Bywarren next time I post a poll perhaps you could proof the questions prior to posting.

Now, what was was the question again?

Posted By: NYgal

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 04:30 PM

smile
Posted By: azbob

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 05:24 PM

Seems we have a well balanced "Board".
Posted By: deadserious

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 05:45 PM

Yes 36 (49%)
No 38 (51%)

It looks like No won the popular vote, but I'm pretty sure that Yes wins in the electoral vote.
Posted By: Amanda Syme

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 06:50 PM

yeah, go for it guys - just keep it reasonable.
Posted By: LaurieMar

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 07:15 PM

That's reasonable!
Posted By: Marty

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 11:04 PM

typical election. seen any hanging chads? anyone want a recount?

can't ban something that half the people like!!!
Posted By: Amanda Syme

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 11:08 PM

if you can't beat 'em....
Posted By: PalapaBob

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 11:14 PM

...........litigate?
Posted By: sweetjane

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 11:40 PM

ha ha ha pb wink

i learned this weekend that the plural of 'chad' is 'chad'. that has no bearing here. just interesting. or not.
Posted By: Nova

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/10/08 11:44 PM

I once knew a fellow named Chad. He was odd. "Odd Chad" I called him. crazy
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 12:52 AM

Was he singular or plural?
Posted By: Dita

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 01:08 AM

Did he dangle....dangling Chad?
Posted By: PalapaBob

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 01:17 AM

I don't EVEN want to know about Mr Dangling Chad, thank you!
Posted By: klcman

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 01:25 AM

He was a brother of Ned, I hear.
Posted By: CB Belize

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 02:17 AM

are you guys talking about the recent movie "RECOUNT" on HBO???
Posted By: Leah-Ann

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 02:24 AM

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --George Bernard Shaw

I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it. --Clint Eastwood


postscript:
ned has no brothers - he is truly one of a kind! wink
Posted By: seashell

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 06:39 AM

I voted no . . I voted no because I'm feeling contrary . . contrary even to myself who doesn't generally believe in any censorship . . I voted no because I'm Canadian and I quickly become bored of USA political discussions, especially here on the board . . I voted no because I'd like to see more Belizean content, even in Chat.

All that said, I've always believed that Chat was created so that board members could talk about whatever they felt like talking about related or unrelated to Belize, or specific to another named forum within the board and thereby not mucking up the balance of the message board. Now it seems like US political discussions are being considered as mucking up Chat. So the suggestion that a new forum be started for discussion of US politics, suits me fine. However, in that case, people/posters/viewers should have to go through an extra sign in to get access. smile But once having gone to the trouble of signing in twice just in order to be able to access or retort in the content thereof, they then should not be able to dictate that anything said there be censored. In that way, no moderators or administrators need be involved at all. Merely, a most vociferous warning preceeding entry should suffice.
Posted By: Rykat

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 04:46 PM

WARNING! If you even smell like a Liberal you will be shot at the door.

How's that one!!!! :-)
Posted By: Marty

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 05:16 PM

should keep the discussion in total agreement!
Posted By: deadserious

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 05:19 PM

I disagree.
Posted By: Leah-Ann

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 05:29 PM

Someone's handing out shots? Count me in! laugh whistle
Posted By: iluvbelize

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 05:33 PM

She's all yours Rykat
Posted By: sweetjane

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 05:48 PM

was that really necessary? can't some of you just keep comments and/or instigations to yourselves? sheesh - here we are right back to being intolerant of those whose ideas may differ from one's own.
Posted By: sweetjane

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 05:49 PM

here is the American Heritage Dictionary's the definition of 'close-minded':

close-mind·ed (klos-mīn-dĭd)
adj. Intolerant of the beliefs and opinions of others; stubbornly unreceptive to new ideas.
Posted By: deadserious

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by sweetjane
can't some of you just keep comments and/or instigations to yourselves? sheesh - here we are right back to being intolerant of those whose ideas may differ from one's own.


...someone can't take a joke... must be voting for Obama.
Posted By: iluvbelize

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 05:54 PM

Humor: a: that quality which appeals to a sense of the ludicrous or absurdly incongruous b: the mental faculty of discovering, expressing, or appreciating the ludicrous or absurdly incongruous c: something that is or is designed to be comical or amusing
Posted By: Canam

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by sweetjane
was that really necessary? can't some of you just keep comments and/or instigations to yourselves? sheesh - here we are right back to being intolerant of those whose ideas may differ from one's own.


Agreed. Silly comments bring everything a halt. Take shots at each other via private email.
Posted By: Leah-Ann

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 07:11 PM

Personally, I thought it was funny. While not everyone shares the same sense of humor, I find Miss Anthropy consistently amusing, despite our philosophical differences.

It's true that there are those who intentionally attempt to hurt then try to hide behind the "Humor" definition; that kind of mean-spiritedness can't be regulated. But we determine our own responses to that kind of behavior. There are those who are almost impossible to offend and then there are those who seem to actively look for opportunities to take offense. Finding myself in the first category I must admit I often have a difficult time relating to those in the second. Perhaps I need some sensitivity training - but I'd rather have the shot! wink
Posted By: KC Jayhawk

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 07:50 PM

This whole discussion makes a strong case for apathy. sleep
Posted By: Rykat

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 08:06 PM

what was that about a piece of coal and a diamond in one week? wink

sheese....lossin'up!
Posted By: ubbit

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 08:07 PM

"Humor is a subclass of the ugly." Aristotle
(It's always at the expense of someone else's misfortune)

Now pleasure, now that is a different story. Of course somethings are more pleasurable than others.
Posted By: Rykat

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 08:11 PM

Aristotle needs to "get" a sense of humor.

Shots on ME, Law!!!!!! grin
Posted By: pugwash

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by sweetjane
was that really necessary? can't some of you just keep comments and/or instigations to yourselves? sheesh - here we are right back to being intolerant of those whose ideas may differ from one's own.


OK...I think I'm getting the hang of this now: So "Zip It, Shorty" would be an inapropriate response? smile

If all else fails, at least I can amuse myself!
Posted By: sweetjane

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 10:06 PM

it would be perfectly appropriate if i was putting on jeans or a jacket. laugh
Posted By: Leah-Ann

Re: Should we debate US politics on this Board? - 06/11/08 11:07 PM

I'll be right there, Ry! laugh
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