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Posted By: SimonB

Dairy Embargo - 04/06/10 10:54 PM

I've just been informed by Flor at Wine de Vine that there is a complete embargo on imported dairy products for all importers and stores. This includes all cheeses, box milk, yoghurt, etc.

They are putting together more info at this moment and when I have more information I will post it.

Flor has also started a petition at Wine de Vine in protest of the action, please stop by as soon as possible to sign the form.

Simon...
Posted By: SFJeff

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/06/10 11:44 PM

This is just getting retarded.

Seriously.

I mean look at the current threads on this board... increases in taxes (which trust our customers have already noticed), failures of basic services (water for example), destruction of the environment, crime, etc, etc... You'd be hard pressed to come up with a recipe that would make it MORE difficult for tourism to flourish.

It's truly tempting to just say the hell with it. Call it a day.

Heck, I can sleep in, go fishing for a bit, cook myself and my wife some dinner and read a book and come out more AHEAD at this rate than I can trying to run a business here.

Posted By: Ernie B

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/07/10 12:08 AM

I never thought I would say this, but, Im glad I no longer live there and Its doubtful I will return unless .........
Posted By: Barbara K

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/07/10 02:58 PM

yeah ....it's looking pretty bleak at this point. I hesitate to refer clients to this site for fear of what they will find out! I try to be very honest with my clients but it is getting increasingly harder to do that and try to close sales and stay in business! Sad but true.
Posted By: Diane Campbell

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/07/10 07:22 PM


This happens every year with some food or another and then vendors freak out and the ban is pulled and the item is back in the store. Why do they even start with such nonsense.

Stupid is as stupid does. Not sure that "stupid" is reserved for Belize. Having lived for 22 years in California I have seen more self-inflicted crises invoked by government than I care to comment on.

Oh yea ---- my favorite here - remember when they were banning "table eggs" from out of country. I thought they were chicken eggs, but hey - and how the heck can you tell a Guatemalan chicken from a Belizean one.

Posted By: Tricky Dicky

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/08/10 03:30 AM

What gets me is something that was real popuar like Dr. Pepper. The distributer, Karl Menzies was put out of his long time business with the stroke of the pen. I guess it was taking too much market share of some other soft drink distributor.
Posted By: chris45

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/08/10 03:10 PM

Barbara K is right. The effect on tourism (across Belize) is damaging even if as may happen this senseless ban is lifted. Its not just the ban, its the instability caused by the possibility of such a random action being taken by some government official sitting in his ivory tower, going home to his Chicken rice and Beans each night (or maybe just for a change, it will be stew beans rice and baked chicken....)
What's next, wine?
Posted By: bywarren

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/08/10 03:19 PM

The goverment officials are probably going home to imported steak and whatever else the rest of the country cant get.
Posted By: Katie Valk

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/08/10 05:58 PM

If so, it is not official. Dr DePaz issues the permit for importation and he doesn't know anything about this. I spoke with the head of one of the largest supermarkets and she doesn't know anything about it. The only reason govt would do something like this would be in a situation similiar to the made cow disease scare, to protect a producer here or if foreign exchange is low, which it is. Fondue on.
Posted By: SimonB

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/08/10 06:33 PM

Katie, give Wine de Vine a call and they can tell you what they were told by the government and what they were told when they talked to other importers of dairy products. Their number is 226-3430.
Posted By: SimonB

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/08/10 06:34 PM

There is an online petition at http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/cheese-please-belize
that has been signed by over 100 people so far.
Posted By: Katie Valk

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/08/10 06:52 PM

Simon, this would have to go to Cabinet and passed in the house and so far, it hasn't. I told Wine De Vine to call Brodies, Save U, Belize Hotel Association, BTIA and BTB and let the big dogs tell GOB now not to even consider it.
Posted By: SimonB

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/08/10 06:58 PM

Katie, you rock. As usual!
Posted By: Diane Campbell

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/10/10 02:24 PM

Plenty of cheese on sale at our favorite market yesterday.
:-)

Posted By: Peter Jones

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/10/10 03:20 PM

Is it true that Customs prevented a shipment entering the country? How can they do that when there's no legal basis for their action?
Posted By: Katie Valk

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/10/10 04:58 PM

I know Brodies has a 40 ft refrigerated container waiting to be cleared from before Easter and GOB is under pressure from Running W and Western Dairys from importing meat and dairy products they produce here. But again, no official embargo and most of these importers deal with similiar situations that pop up all the time, over the years, and its part of the cost and effort of doing biz here. Someone will get squeezed too much and hollar and it'll be sorted out. Nothing new, Belize has always protected nascent and local industries.
Posted By: Peter Jones

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/10/10 06:31 PM

Even ones that contribute nothing in taxes to the country?
Posted By: chris45

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/19/10 11:03 PM

So here's the story. There IS an embargo in place on all dairy products competing with Western Dairies.
That means no full cream milk, no cheddar, no mozzarela etc may be imported.
The suggestion that this ban was inspired by a glut is true.
This info comes direct from an importer of dairy products into Belize.
different people may have different views on this.
My personal views come down to two points.
First i am fundementally against protectionism unless supporting (say) a new and growing venture. To support a mature industry (by cutting off their competition) because they got their production forecast wrong is just unacceptable. The thinking is illogical and leads us in a dangerous direction.
My second point is this. On who's authority was this done? and why has this not been publicised?
Oh I forgot, its a secret, like much this government does.
What happened to transparency?
Posted By: Chris

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/19/10 11:13 PM

Western Dairies does not make mozzarela, cheddar, or any kind of cheese for that matter. They make soap.
Posted By: Cayemen

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/20/10 03:56 AM

Chris, you mean Western Diarrhea
and not Western Dairies I am right?
Posted By: chris45

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/20/10 01:51 PM

Well I've tried their soap. Don't you find it crumbles a bit in the shower? I have also found its important to make sure you rinse it all off afterwards, otherwise you start getting complaints from your close friends....
Posted By: JZB

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/20/10 06:00 PM

What about cream cheese, half and half, butter, sour cream, yogurt? Maybe we should organize a March for Dairy! smile
Posted By: Diane Campbell

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/20/10 10:58 PM

Woa there I'm lost (soap?!) -
Posted By: SP Daily

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/20/10 11:06 PM

Soap = sarcasm
Posted By: Portofino

Re: Dairy Embargo - 04/23/10 02:22 AM

I am not going to say this out loud . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . the rumour has it that Wine de Vine has got new imported cheeses!
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