http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/bundle-2mb-at.html?code=ZZ-NL-11GK requires a phone line. Since I don't read French, I'm not sureif the other one uses a phone line.
This site may be the same thing:
http://www.consumercompare.org/?OVRAW=dsl%20phone&OVKEY=dsl%20phone&OVMTC=standard It gives a comparison to internet phones.
This one doesn't need a phone line.
http://nophonedsl.com/ Of course, I would have to research it a bit more to determine if a phone could be used with this. Perhaps you could inform me of how this is less than what your ads offer. Again, I don't know a lot about it, and would like to understand it more.
And, if you wouldn't mind, could you do it without the attitude?