rykat, i must say you have been a real gentleman here. kudos.

but, am i thick? or once they are elected, by whomever, then those officials ARE the gov't. no difference to me. the PC is the govt, who are pushed into making PC judgement calls thanks to the 'moral majority'. and if think that isnt so, then why is abortion a political issue? govt regulates business as well, and is allowing all kinds of rule bending with our personal and private information instead of protecting its citizens and their rights to privacy. and, as far as i know, the cia, fbi, nsa, whoever, has been free to make a file on anyone they want willy-nilly, for whatever reason they want. my ex wrote a paper on the sandanistas in college and got a 'file'. dumb, and scary.

and, as i said, now democrats are terrorist lovers. how much do we let go before someone speaks up for us, says the emperor has no clothes, and have this country ruled by the people and for the people? and i ask again, where does it end?