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Re: Spearfishing? #104087
06/04/05 08:13 PM
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Well....that just took all of our fun with this topic right away laugh Have a fantastic trip and watch out for the dynamite and grenades!!!! laugh cool

Re: Spearfishing? #104088
06/04/05 08:34 PM
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Amen.

But, I am concerned about your observations of captjeff's fishing habits.

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Originally posted by Spleen:
...As an aside, I was troubled when I saw Cap'n Jeff's fishing pics including a small jewfish. That was a very juvenile example of what could be a 600 pound fish. I'm surprised that anyone would keep it, but that's why the law steps in to protect fish species when the fisherman won't...

Re: Spearfishing? #104089
06/05/05 09:03 AM
06/05/05 09:03 AM
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Why am I brought into this bull shit controversy? The fish we keep we give to folks free!!!! Who cannot afford to buy fish on their diet, they live in Belize City and we do a good deed. I fish with local captains who tell me the right thing to do on size and species. Capt Francisco Verde caught the fish that day. He has been living here over 45 years. Spleen or any other free thinking, limousine liberal, Eco minded do good.. keep my name out of this.!!!! you go tell Capt Francisco Verde yourself he is no fuc**ing good and he should listen to You!!And as you know all about his life and what fish he should keep and what is not good for him to fish for. if you have the bal*s ...A point of info When we go fishing the capt is the boss. it is There boat, there island. If he says to throw it back ,it is a done deal, we do not keep it as this is his island and he lives here. I am just a once a month gringo fisherman who loves the people and the island. I try not to tell locals what to ever do.so keep my name out of this crap,you are entitled to your opinions just keep me out of your silliness please..


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Re: Spearfishing? #104090
06/05/05 10:08 AM
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sandb here you go again a nobody, telling a somebody what to do . and whats right or wrong ..get a life..


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Re: Spearfishing? #104091
06/05/05 10:30 AM
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Welcome to the world of some my buddy, where what you do is wrong and what they do is no problem. We all have an effect on our environment by just being part of it. Be it the fisherman who catches the fish, the dive operator who brings down divers who contribute their share of strain on the environment and probably want to eat some sea food after they are done looking at it or the business man who’s interests are getting more people on the island who want beaches and buildings and who create garbage, sewage, demand for taxis, roads, power, etc.

We need to all try to be responsible in our endeavors and live by the moto “live and let live unless it is the fish I want to eat for dinner”. wink

Re: Spearfishing? #104092
06/05/05 10:54 AM
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bywaren,I can understand spleens feelngs , if he wants to spear fish god bless him ,but to bring me into this is bull, as he is a gringo just like me ,and first comming down in two weeks ???? he will stay a week have a fun time???so why is telling the local capt he is wrong for keeping a fish .. what a pair..then he blames me ???? I did not catch the fish he capt verde caught it not me!!!! a local sanpedro long time fisherman . in retrospect why get upset in a month we will say spleen who ?????? as for sandb we know her deal ,a opinionated do nothing .. all talk no action ..how much time, and money has she spent on helping the local belizean community.I suspect none ..and yes the city folks that had many free fish dinners think it was just wonderful........


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Re: Spearfishing? #104093
06/05/05 12:00 PM
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S T O P.......pointing FINGERS, all of you smile

Re: Spearfishing? #104094
06/05/05 12:01 PM
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Jeff, why the rant? I say the taking of juvie jewfish is troubling and you're having something of a freak out. I didn't "blame" you for anything. I'm not sure why you're so threatened?

Jewsfish don't reach maturity until they're somewhere between 4 to 7 years old and 50 to 90 pounds. That fish looked to be about 20#.

It's great that you're donating the fish you catch to folks who can't afford to pay for it. My suggestion would be that in the course of that charity it might be better to release immature fish. Because jewfish can get so large and are slow to mature what might look like a full-grown fish for a black grouper or a gag is a baby for a jewfish. If I meet Cap'n Verde I'll be happy to make this suggestion to him personally and I promise to do it calmly and respectfully. If you read the entirety of my comments about that fish you'll note that I made my comment in the context of fisherman protecting the integrity of their own fishing grounds and it's harvestable population to avoid regulatory control. Gov'ts step in to regulate fishing when fisherman, commercial and recreational, fail to regulate themselves.

I know you'd love to peg a guy like me as some elitist lefty eco do-gooder. I myself wouldn't mind the limo if that comes with the job. The truth is I've been fishing for 30 years, diving for 20 and spearing for 10 and I've killed my share of fish. If you want to call me anything call me a libertarian, because what I would like to see is fisherman regulate their own fishery responsibly *without* the hassles and endless debate that comes with regulatory intervention.

Re: Spearfishing? #104095
06/05/05 12:13 PM
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All I want to know with all this organic nitrogen floating around is will I still be able to fish when I come in Sept.

Also it seems to me that making a precise targeted "kill" versus the random method might be better for the fish and thats coming from a guy that has fished with a pole for 50 years.

Re: Spearfishing? #104096
06/05/05 12:15 PM
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All I want to know with all this organic nitrogen floating around is will I still be able to fish when I come in Sept.

Also it seems to me that making a precise targeted "kill" versus the random method might be better for the fish and thats coming from a guy that has fished with a pole for 50 years.

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