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Well now, didn't that explain it?

Yep, I thought so anyway.

As far as us owners were concerned, the resort was completed. All these things are already installed ! Lets take a look back at the update archives on the BJR web site and read where it says all these things have been completed. Gary, you cant blame us for being so negative ... we have been disappointed with this whole project. Its not negativity against you personally, its the whole let down of this disastress money pit ! We all learned our lesson, dont ever buy sight unseen ! Glad to hear that somebody has an interest in the place now . By the way, Im going for a long shot.... when is it suppossed to open ?

what! eh! did I miss something?

MosquitoR

It was just such a shock to find out everything had been going wrong for so long when Gary had e-maild me as recently as:
Date:
Wed, 5 Sep 2001 13:45:36 -0500
From:
"Basil Jones Resort & Club" <[email protected]>
To:
<[email protected]>

Dear Anita,

There are no roads up at Basil Jones. We will have our own water taxi for transportation into town. Once in town, you can rent your golf cart. We plan to have a small store on site for needed groceries. Once your travel plans are complete, just let me know what time and where to pick you up here on San Pedro.
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He KNEW at that time that it wasn't going to happen, yet he let us go on thinking that our vacation for 11/24/01 was still on. That just
made a bad situation worse. What would have happened if we did show up in San Pedro when I told him we were going to be there?
Hope you can understand how distrustful we became of what he would say. It not only cost us a lot of money, it cost us our trust in him.
Sincerely, Anita

Yep that again explains it, so strongly.

[This message has been edited by Belize2002 (edited 11-15-2001).]

EXCUSE ME!!!!!!

I AM NOT STAFF OF BASIL JONES!!!!!

I've been really patient with you...but I'm telling you right now in front of God and everybody...you are just plain RUDE.

I'm not the one that has told you things that aren't true...problem is..you don't keep your mouth shut long enough to hear anything!

I have tried to help the owners in the only capacity that I can....not being an employee and all....and that is to tell them what I know thru emails...which I do on a daily basis...and some even by phone. I can promise you...none of them speak to me or about me the way you do!

The following post is a recent one from the TUG message board. Close your mouth and READ it!!!
It is all I will say on this subject!!!!
I'm sick to death of it!

I personally would like to string up Adam Chandler by his nuts and poke needles in his eyes for the damn mess he has created!
But...seeing as I am a poor middle class citizen who never made any money from this damn resort experience...I don't have the funds to track him down in England and do that. If you do....BE MY GUEST!

You can say whatever you like about Basil Jones and their new ownership...I don't really give a rats ass!....BUT LEAVE ME OUT OF IT!!!! I don't deserve that...and you don't know me well enough to judge me that way...until you have walked a long damn ways in my shoes!

From the TUG message board:

Gary is still in the states...that's true. He will be going back in a week or two. Since they are not doing sales....there is no reason for him to be there until the construction begins again.
That would just further eat away at the budget.
The 8 units on the property ARE finished.....the common areas are not....you can find that out on the website....I think I also emailed you this info.

The builder must be paid before he will continue his work....that is standard practice. That is the primary goal right now. Pay the builder....finish the project.

The property is not livable at this time because there are no utilites installed at present.

These ARE the facts ma'am....as you say.....as I previously posted.

The fact that there a few last minute details that need to be done on the interior of the units is true....this was done on purpose for security reasons. The resort is in a remote location...13 miles north of town and only accessable by boat. There are maybe a couple other places in the area....and we have a caretaker that lives onsite. Theft is a real issue considering it's remoteness. The last minute details will take all of about a week to finish and this will take place while other areas are being worked on. The plumbing fixtures and appliances will be installed towards the end of the contruction. There are a lot of things to take into consideration when building a resort in this environment and location.....maybe others who are not involved with it and have not lived in the area don't think about.

As far as the water and electrical goes....
It has already been discussed with the Nova Shrimp Farm just south of the property to provide electricity. They will be installing this themselves as far as the property line and then the builder will do the hookup on site. This is something that has not been needed up to this point. Everything has been run on generators that belong to the builder. If electricity were present right now....they would have every Tom, Dick and Harry that happens to stagger by on the beach....living up in the place. It also adds to the risk of fire because some people are careless when no one is around to supervise them....especially when it doesn't belong to them!
The well has been contracted for....and will be done when the builder says it's time. From what I have been told....the builder estimates a 6 week time frame for completion once he is paid and begins work again. I personally think that figure is a little optimistic given previous problems and mishaps that seem to be typical of Belizean construction. I think 10 - 12 weeks would be a more accurate outlook....but then again....who am I? I would just prefer to figure in a buffer zone so you don't look like an idiot.....AGAIN! Six weeks leaves no margin for error....or acts of God...as in the 2 hurricanes they have experienced in the last year. Although Basil Jones was lucky in both....it puts a real strain on the economy of such a small country and construction materials are solely funneled into reconstruction of peoples homes. After hurricane Keith....Basil Jones was shut down for almost 3 months. I spent that 3 months relaying info to families...working in the medical clinic and distributing relief supplies. Stuff happens....sometimes beyond our control.

It is ALSO a fact that Adam Chandler was a crook and dumped on a lot of people...including me. I spent a while in denial...more out of disbelief that I could have been so rudely taken...but I got over that when it became apparent that there was no other explanation. Most of you never knew Adam...or spent any time with him. I worked hand in hand with him for 16 months and developed a close relationship with him....like a brother almost. Anyone living on the island can tell you he conned everyone....we were all shocked to find out what he really was. I was hurt....spent many days crying...for many reasons...angry with him...and with myself. It would have been easier for me if he had just died so I could have had a funeral...grieved and got over it...not to mention maybe salvaging a little of my integrity. He made a fool of me...in my community....and with my friends and family. I may have been snowed...but I'm not completely stupid....stupified maybe....you'll have to pardon me for being human. I guess we all handle shock in different ways.
They are trying to pick up the pieces and maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to at least give them a chance to make good on the resort. I know it doesn't make the owners feel any better....or make any of you more obliging....but it has been difficult to step into the shoes of some crook that just disappears off the face of the map. It's difficult to get all the legal issues settled without going thru normal procedures. That's difficult to do in the states...much less in Belize.
I guess what I'm saying is to look at the whole picture...there are a lot of issues involved. People knew when they bought timeshare in Belize....some of who bought sight unseen...when it was still raw land....that it was a gamble. It's like buying an unknown stock...you never know which way it will go....you're hoping for the best outcome...but sometimes it doesn't always pay off...at least not immediately. Sometimes patience pays off.

At any rate....there are people who have bought into this resort with the same dream that I had. It's a magical place...and unless you've been there...you can't imagine what effect it has on people who see it for the first time. People used to come and visit and we would take them up to the property for a day....and it sold itself. We never had to work for sales....it sold itself. I think Adam knew this when he saw the land for the first time.
This is why it's so disheartening for things to be in the condition they are. If it had been done properly...it would be open already...and it would be a huge success. I know that without any doubts. I was also very excited about the prospects of having timeshare in Belize as there are very few tradeable units at this time.

Maybe I am defensive about Basil Jones a little. Maybe I'm too close to the situation and the wounds are still fresh. I'm not so upset about what is being discussed so much as the tone everytime I try to post something. People have a right to know what is happening to their investment. I know you don't know me and could probably care less about my feelings or how this whole thing has affected me...and that's fine....you don't have to.
I understand that this is a serious board for people who are very knowledgeable about timeshare....and their main concern is sharing accurate information.

I distinctly remembered getting axed the very first time I posted on this board....and it's been the same ever since...so maybe you are right....I should'nt post here.
Even though I am not with this project anymore...I thought I would hang in there and try to help out for the sake of the owners. I still get emails everyday from owners....and I tell them what I know...not what I think. I can see I am just beating a dead horse here...and quite frankly...I'm not needed...they have you guys and this board to rely on.

I hope all works out for them....truly I do...and I hope one day this will all be a bad dream.

Best Wishes,
Tammy

If you care to read the entire topic..here's the address:
http://www.tug1.net/tugbbs1/Forum15/HTML/000481.html




[This message has been edited by Sandshaker (edited 11-14-2001).]

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[This message has been edited by PSHBC (edited 11-15-2001).]

LMAO....*shaking head*

I guess there is just no end to the thick headed people in this world.

Some people can't read and absorb!
I think I have stated my position sufficiently for most intelligent folks to understand.

I don't work for them....I don't do sales...never did....and I still say all the above facts are true...you can believe them or not...doesn't really matter!

You don't have to believe me...go see for yourself...or better yet...get somebody in town to go up there for you...they will tell you the exact same thing I just did.

As a matter of fact..if there are any locals reading here...I urge you to print out this topic....and take it with you the next time you are up in the Basil Jones area....use it as a check list.....check each item off...then come back and report what you found here on this message board.

Hmmmm....maybe this would be a mission for Mr. Bill Thornton....LOL....he seems to be quite an investigative reporter!

I don't NEED to lie about the condition of Basil Jones...it is what it is....and it can be easily verified by at least half a dozen local people on this board...so what would be the point??????

It would be my suggestion to the new ownership to just refund all monies to owners and be done with it!....but I am in no position to make that happen.
Several times I have suggested to them ways to resolve this problem...but it falls on deaf ears...so...what do you do?
They aren't real happy that I even post anything about Basil Jones....but I don't have to answer them....so I do what I like!

Just out of curiosity...exactly when was it you purchased and how much did you pay for this timeshare???
Nevermind...I'll look it up....I have a list of owners and what they bought...something I saved for a rainy day!

Oh...just so folks don't get confused...Belize2002 and PSHBC are a husband and wife team

I addressed my last post to your wife...she had enuff guts to sling the mud in her last post....let HER answer for herself!

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