No Simon, I have obtained some information from that "other side" and have given it, as well as commenting on the information given by or on behalf of SAGA. This whole sorry affair has been manipulated from the beginning, and the people who manipulated it are now beginning to see the inevitable consequences. Do you honestly think any director of SAGA is going to talk about the various events of the recent past? Even now I don't know what their game is, because it is quite clear that (1) SAGA have not been denied having their own vet, so that is an outright lie, and (2) even without their own vet they can continue to operate much as they should have done in the past. I might add (3) the reason they don't have a vet is wholly of their own making.